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So I don't really disagree with the advice here.

But I see a lot of generalizations that don't seem to be grounded in data.

For example: yes, Orthodox churches are attracting a lot of young men. But is that because they specially affirm traditional gender roles? I've attended quite a few Orthodox churches of different jurisdictions over my 20 years as an Orthodox Christian, and I've heard little of any advocacy from the pulpit, and not much even in casual conversation with other believers, for women staying in traditional gender roles and avoiding careers. I don't see a lot of vocal or prescriptive anti-feminism. If there's a causal mechanism at work where Orthodox Christianity advocates traditional gender roles and that attracts young men but not young women, I would expect that causal mechanism to operate through what priests say from the ambon. Without that, I don't really believe the explanation. I don't have an alternative, exactly. I don't really understand why Orthodoxy has become a male thing.

You also have some general language about how women are doing well with education and careers, but that's only true of a somewhat elitish subclass. "Go to college and then get a professional career" is a minority life trajectory for both genders. You run a risk care of giving advice that is aimed only at relatively successful people and has nothing to offer that the majority. Suppose it turned out to be the case, as I think some survey evidence that I've seen suggests, the most non-college educated women would rather stay home with their kids if they could, but their households can't make ends meet that way. Would you craft a different set of advice for that class of people? You assume that the breadwinner/homemaker specialization model is more appealing to men than women. It's not at all obvious to me that that should be true, and I don't think the data particularly support it. But it's a dated question, anyway, and just quoting random opinions from your sons really doesn't rise to the level that's needed for the question.

Someone might get the impression from this post that marriage is a particular problem for traditionalist young men, because they're hunting for a tradwife deal that's not available. But the reality is that marriage is falling through the floor for everybody. Huge numbers of people are lonely and sexless, and men and women just don't seem to like each other very much anymore. There's less dating, less romance, less fertility... Just a kind of all-around fail. I guess grappling with that mystery isn't really the purpose of this post... But I think it's needed. And I don't think cheerily complacent moderate feminism that trusts there is some satisfactorily feminism friendly but also marriage friendly equilibrium on the other end of a period of transition is the answer.

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