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Nathan Smith's avatar

Funny note about this: when I used to comment a lot on Rod Dreher's blog posts, and attract a lot of h from post-liberals and Christian nationalists and whatnot, I once got blamed as an "oikophobe." You know, since I'm all classic liberal and globalist and free trader and all that.

Meanwhile, I'm actually profoundly rooted in and loyal to my community. I live where I live, and I'm determined to stay, almost at all costs. And Dreher, by contrast, has to live in Hungary or somewhere because he's so disillusioned with his native land. That's what oikophobia looks like!

Nathan Smith's avatar

Just kind of underscores the egregious contradictions within post-liberalism. They want to be for tradition, but actual traditions favor liberalism, so they tie themselves in crazy knots. They want to be for community, but the community people actually believe in and feel part of is rooted in natural rights and freedom and constitutionalism... So the post-liberals have to sacrifice actual community to some sort of imagined community projected from their ideology, and usually very clumsily imagined, too.

Oikophobes that are so mad about Americans not being neighborly enough, that they have to move to Europe to get away from it. :)

Rachel Lu's avatar

"Oikophobes that are so mad about Americans not being neighborly enough, that they have to move to Europe to get away from it. :)"

Exactly! Some of these West Coast/Claremont people have a similar, amusing tic. "America was founded as hands-down the greatest country that has ever existed on the face of the earth and that's why we're boiling mad that it's so terrible."

Though it often turns out when you dig into it that the legacy was being betrayed almost from the earliest years. How great a job did the Founders really do, then?

Meanwhile, I wouldn't make *quite* such grandiose claims about America, but I actually like it a lot... even now! I like living here now! Good country, America!