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Alexander William Salter's avatar

"Does anyone even know what “the old right” is anymore? Could our young people pick Reagan out of a lineup? No one is calling for a zombie invasion, but we do desperately need a better, more truthful conversation, which re-integrates elements of the conservative tradition that populists have deliberately excised. That’s not nostalgia. It’s not a hidebound refusal to change. Adapting timeless truths for new circumstances is what we used to call being conservative."

All the "truthful conversations" from conservatism's previous iteration--the passing of which we both mourn--did not save it because the public officials who espoused it proved unwilling or unable to deliver on their promises.

Ideas are important. We need to know who we are, what we're for, and why we're contesting in the public square. But unless you can translate those into concrete political victories, it's cheap talk masquerading as a guiding philosophy.

Are we serious about politics? Do we think our ideas are good enough to ground a mighty, wealthy, continental nation? Or are we just tinkering with ideas whose applicability to public life is merely apparent?

Yes, hold fast to timeless truths. Yes, demand virtue from our leaders. Yes, demand legal and constitutional fidelity. That Trump/Trumpism scorned these things is a major indictment. But eventually, our principles *have to get us closer to the kind of society we want.*

You and I both can't stand the "conservatives never conserve anything" canard. That claim is obviously false. Nevertheless, the older kind of conservatism became complacent and ineffectual.

MAGA isn't a feasible or desirable replacement. But repeating what failed before would be foolish. So what comes next?

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As a fellow "Zombie Reaganite Dead Consensus Squish" (and a Cassandra from back in 2015 saying that this whole Trump thing was likely to end badly) I am feeling rather grimly vindicated this week. I hope that one silver lining is that the likes of JD Vance/Vivek Ramaswamy and the rest of the postliberal Very Online Right will crawl back into whatever hole they slithered out of, but that might be too optimistic.

Ready for more?