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Re: "Deciding on behalf of the next generation that they don't get to inherit the only society that's actually available for them to live in."

I think there's a serious risk that immersing your kids in the Great Books will amount to doing exactly that. I think a lot of people find that having been elevated culturally makes them a fish out of water in the society they actually land in. They want to talk about Locke or the Pleistocene or "Sailing to Byzantium," and can't because no one around them will understand.

And I think it tends to be a price worth paying. The point for the present is that BenOp and Great Books are typically on the same side, including with respect to preparation for living in society. They're both refuges from cultural degradation, in different but related and frequently overlapping ways, and may exact a high lifetime cost in maladjustment, or pay off special ways of flourishing, or both.

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So I'm quite sympathetic to Great Books education as a project, and I'm certainly not inclined to steer young people away from moving, thought-provoking, historic books because I don't think the content is objectively, correct. Know the history of the human race.

That said, it is a little bit difficult to explain why a kid should read The Iliad if they don't want to. You probably won't "need" it. At least now, with AI, you can always firm up your recollection of it with a quick chat conversation, if you want to put it to use in an argument or something. But you probably won't get much opportunity. "You should read the great books" is an argument I would fight for valiantly, but half expecting to lose.

What puzzled me was the reference to "BenOp bunkers" as if they're an alternative to great Books.

Do you really think that families who try to live the Benedict Option are less likely to read great books from the past? I should think, on the contrary, that to create some distance from modern distractions is far more favorable to those pursuits. BenOp and Great Books are naturally on the same side.

And the original Benedictines make the point very strikingly. They are famous for nothing more than for the laborious preservation of old books at a time when no one else cared!

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