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By the way, a question about hylomorphism.

Suppose you have a cat. It is matter, but it is also form, or has form. The matter of certain atoms. The form is catness.

Now suppose you have another cat. It is different matter. But it is the same form: catness. Otherwise, how could we speak of "two cats?"

How do hylomorphists handle this situation?

I think a Platonist would say that there is one form which resides, so to speak, in the realm of ideas. Two things, one form. Is that consistent with hylomorphism? If the thing is form and matter, someone might think it follows from that that if the things are two, the forms must be two.

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One of Locke's themes in *An Inquiry Concerning Human Understanding* was that "there are no innate ideas." I'm not sure to what extent he was arguing with anyone in particular, and if so, what they would have said in their own defense. But the notion of innate ideas feels to me like something downstream of the rejection of Aristotelianism, and of hylomorphism. Locke wanted to deny that we just know mentally what things are like. It seemed cleaner to say that the mind starts as a blank slate and we discover what's in the world through experience.

The ultimate descent of empiricism into Humean skepticism shows the limits of that, and some kind of hylomorphism, or Platonism, might be needed as a defense against it. Ideas and forms are real. The world is orderly in a way that is intelligible to us, even though logic never guaranteed that, as empiricism ultimately illuminated. That intelligible orderliness is the foundation of the possibility of science. It cannot itself be proved, it must even be taken on faith, yet we know it. The grue hypothesis can be tested like any other; It must be rejected on the authority of intuition, not on empirical evidence. The authority of intuition is hard to explain but must arise from some platonic birthright of the soul to discern the real ideas on the basis of which the world is ordered.

Whether that's a rejection of materialism with respect to physical nature, I'm not sure. If you say that nature turns out to be mathematically explainable, or in Galileo's framing, that "mathematics is the language in which God has written the universe," and if at the same time you recognize that numbers are non-material yet real entities, is that a rejection of materialism?

But here's the point. It's very possible to reject Aristotelianism in favor of modern physical science which reasons only from efficient causes, and at the same time, to accept that the world was created by God and that human souls are real and immoral and that there is free will. If there is a long and very roundabout case for hylomorphism as an escape hatch from the problem of induction, the case for rejecting materialism about the human soul flows far more directly and infallibly from subjective experience.

"Subjective" and "objective" are hard to define, but we kind of know what they mean. The pursuit of scientific objectivity is a venerable enterprise. It's a motive for us was a zeal for truth, as against mere subjectivity, what seems true to somebody but maybe isn't, and especially, as against what seemed true to somebody, and then becomes a doctrine backed by force, which honest epistemic schools compel others to reject, if they have the courage to tell the truth. The pursuit of objectivity went a little too far; it turns out that we do have to trust our intuitions in the end. But it's possible to recognize this while? Still thinking that aristotelians let mere subjective feeling have too much authority, and build far too many edifices of elaborate claims on casual subjective feelings about how things should be.

CS Lewis represents a successful synthesis of modern science with Christianity, much as Thomas Aquinas represented a successful synthesis of Christianity with the Aristotelianism that was the best available science in his day. I'd like to see you engage more with him.

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